In this episode of Sisters-in-Law of Attraction, Sam and Christine explore the powerful connection between courage and confidence, showing how confidence is built through action, not something you wait to feel. Through personal stories and the idea of “20 seconds of courage,” they reveal how small, brave steps can unlock momentum, reshape your path, and create lasting growth even before you have all the answers.
Highlights from this episode
You're not naturally confident. It takes courage to try something new and work through that fear and that uncomfortableness.
That 20 seconds of courage might not lead to the exact outcome that you want, but it becomes a building block for your next 20 seconds of courage. And eventually, all of them combined will be the life changer.
To sit in the imposter syndrome, to be okay with being a beginner, to say I want this but I don't know anything about it, and doing it anyway.
Serendipity is a function of courage. Things happen, but they happen because of your own action. And your action requires courage.
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Samantha Bauer(00:01.667)
Welcome back to the Sisters-in-Law of Attraction podcast. I'm Sam. And we're so thrilled you're back with us. Christine, it's been a minute. And these are always my favorite days that we can get back on here and talk about all the fun things that I know. And before we jump into today's episode, I wanted to kind of talk a little bit about just some
Christine Goforth(00:05.844)
And I'm Christine.
Christine Goforth(00:18.538)
It is the best.
Samantha Bauer(00:28.089)
fun feedback we're getting on the podcast. And I know some of our listeners have reached out and told us, gosh, I really needed this. And that was really the whole reason that Christine and I started down this journey together is because we saw such a huge impact in our own lives that we just knew like, my gosh, we have to totally share this. We're practitioners. We just sought resources.
Christine Goforth(00:29.528)
Yes. Yes, yes, yes.
Christine Goforth(00:53.774)
Right.
Samantha Bauer(00:55.661)
Right, Christine? And we just sort of jumped into it. So I'm sure you're getting some fun feedback as well.
Christine Goforth(00:56.589)
Yep.
Christine Goforth(01:02.702)
Absolutely. I actually had someone reach out and let me know that by happenstance had a really bad day at work. Just things were not going well in general for work and happened upon the podcast. Listened to episodes and was like, this is exactly what I needed when I needed it. And if that is not the universe speaking, I don't know what it is, but it was one of kind of one of the earlier episodes and it just, yeah, it was.
Samantha Bauer(01:26.415)
Right.
Christine Goforth(01:31.138)
Yeah, this is how it works.
Samantha Bauer(01:32.739)
Right, and I think what's fun is when we talk about, when we're talking to friends and family and just out there just getting the word out, it's people understand the law of attraction. They totally get it. This is not a foreign concept as far as changing your thoughts and all of that, but it's just doing the work is the hard part. It's fairly easy concepts, but it's just doing that work. And I think the more that we talk about it,
Christine Goforth(01:49.804)
Right.
Christine Goforth(01:57.293)
Mm-hmm.
Samantha Bauer(02:01.061)
And exactly this is the platform that we've, this podcast is the perfect platform to discover all the little tricks and practices and tools that we use. And again, we're still discovering. I think when it, nope, go ahead.
Christine Goforth(02:15.97)
Yep.
Christine Goforth(02:21.761)
Well, it really, sorry. It really is though, just creating those habits. so having something like a podcast or any kind of app, if you're going in like a Gabby Bernstein or something along those lines where it's creating these little habits and they're easy habits. I can open my phone and read some manifestation prompts or journal. These are not difficult things to do, but it's about adopting the discipline.
Christine Goforth(02:21.761)
to do them and having faith that if you do these things in repetition, it will rewire and it will work. But it's the faith piece, right?
Samantha Bauer(03:01.495)
Exactly. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Well, in today's episode, we're going to talk about this thing called courage, courage to confident. And we hit on this concept a little bit last time with when we had coach Rob on the podcast about, you know, having that courage to try something new, challenge yourself physically, you know, by coming in into the gym. So several years ago, I had
Christine Goforth(03:11.233)
Yes.
Samantha Bauer(03:29.761)
actually a landscaper when we redid our backyard, very just wonderful, you know, Christian man, and we got to know each other pretty, pretty well. And he shared with me a book called Love Does by Bob Goff. anyhow, so that was my first sort of entree into Bob Goff. And so I've since read several others of Bob's works, including, you know, Undistracted. but I think
Samantha Bauer(03:29.761)
for the purposes of today, I wanted to share with something that Bob said, and he said, what would it look like if you had 20 seconds of insane courage? What would 20 seconds of embarrassing bravery create in your life? And so the whole point here is you're not naturally confident. It takes courage.
Christine Goforth(04:23.213)
Right.
Samantha Bauer(04:25.123)
to try something new and work through that fear and that uncomfortableness.
Christine Goforth(04:30.199)
to sit in the imposter syndrome, to be okay with being a beginner, to say, want this, but I don't know anything about it, and doing it anyway.
Samantha Bauer(04:35.787)
Exactly.
Samantha Bauer(04:40.441)
Right, right. And if you break it down, 20 seconds of courage, that's not a lot. So what would you do with that 20 seconds of courage? What small action can you take just to have that 20 seconds of courage to build that confidence? So.
Christine Goforth(04:58.013)
that could take you, that could leap you so far forward in whatever it is that you're dreaming of.
Samantha Bauer(05:05.361)
Exactly, exactly. So and I mean, we have lots of examples in our own life, about how, and everyone does too. Everyone obviously has shown some level of courage in their life to do things. I mean, otherwise, we just wouldn't be living. But like for you, Christine, I mean, what are some examples that you had to have just 20 seconds of courage to?
Christine Goforth(05:10.679)
Sure.
Christine Goforth(05:16.212)
Right.
Christine Goforth(05:20.139)
Right. Yeah.
Christine Goforth(05:26.893)
gosh. Well, and I would like to make a distinction too between 20 seconds of courage out of necessity and 20 seconds of courage out of growth wanting to, yes, choice, wanting to grow. I would say 20, quick 20 seconds of courage because I wanted to was choosing to run an entire full marathon when I had never done that before in my life.
Samantha Bauer(05:35.034)
Yes.
Samantha Bauer(05:35.034)
choice. Yeah.
Samantha Bauer(05:55.191)
Right. Right.
Christine Goforth(05:56.077)
But I didn't want, I had neighbors come to me and say, know, do you want to run the half marathon with us? And it would be really fun. I'm like, okay. And then I was like, this overwhelming feeling in me of like, why am going to do a half? I'm going to do, I'm going to go for it. I'm going to go for it. And I checked the other box and put the paperwork in and there it went. And it was like, okay, I'm doing it. I'm, I am in it now. Right. that one was certainly by choice.
Samantha Bauer(06:13.795)
Yes, right.
Samantha Bauer(06:13.795)
Right? Yes.
Samantha Bauer(06:13.795)
Right?
Christine Goforth(06:25.87)
more recently by necessity was, overnight losing our jobs and having to be brave to go find something else. I, I hadn't had any other, I was a stay at home mom for years and years and years. Yes, I went to college. Yes, I graduated, but I hadn't been in, I wasn't a career woman, right? I, I define myself from.
Samantha Bauer(06:41.999)
Right?
Samantha Bauer(06:49.487)
Sure.
Christine Goforth(06:53.666)
by lots of other things other than a career. And so it was very difficult to sit back and say, okay, now I have the gift of time. A little, you know, a little bit, not a lot, but it was like, okay, figure it out. And by process of elimination, what can I do that's not nine to five that still allows me to...
Samantha Bauer(07:07.577)
Sure, sure.
Christine Goforth(07:19.938)
pick my kids up from school to watch their extracurricular activities, to be present at home, which was for me the most important part. And it was like, okay, you know, Sam, I have spent my entire life saying I will never, ever, ever be a teacher. I will never, I come from a family of teachers. I will never, ever, ever be a teacher. Right. And, and now, you know, it took that.
Samantha Bauer(07:29.059)
Right.
Samantha Bauer(07:37.849)
Yep. Right. Yeah, you're yeah, you come from a family of teachers.
Christine Goforth(07:47.936)
out of necessity, but also like this is the perfect thing for this season of life. going through applying to be a substitute teacher, not knowing like I'm going into that first day, holy moly. And everybody said, don't let them know it's your first day. They will eat you alive. And I'm like, you know what I did? You know what I did? Sam, I went with my gut and I went in there and I went into that classroom and I said,
Samantha Bauer(08:06.955)
Yes, they can smell chum in the water.
Christine Goforth(08:16.639)
Everybody told me not to do this, but I'm going to tell you, this is my first day ever substitute teaching. We are in it together. Like I was just organic and raw and vulnerable and saying, you know what? This is my first time ever doing this. We're going to get through it together. I got you. I'm in charge. And also this is my first time. you know, and they all were amazing. They all were amazing and it has been one heck of a ride and I love it.
Samantha Bauer(08:23.245)
Yeah, love it.
Samantha Bauer(08:28.378)
Yep.
Samantha Bauer(08:33.881)
Right. Right.
Samantha Bauer(08:33.881)
Yeah, of course.
Samantha Bauer(08:46.275)
love it.
Christine Goforth(08:46.367)
Right? Like for right now in this season, it's perfect. So.
Samantha Bauer(08:49.773)
Right, and I think, I guess it was about a year ago, you had to take on a long-term sub job to teach physics. Like really?
Christine Goforth(08:57.195)
Yes. Physics, freshman physics. And it was, yeah, yeah, I get a phone call from the principal and it's like, here's this opportunity. And we really don't want to hire somebody out because we, the consistency and we know that you're going to show up every day. You do a good job, da, da, da, da. Like we would rather have you than a physics teacher from, I don't know, whatever.
Samantha Bauer(09:19.556)
Right.
Samantha Bauer(09:23.267)
Wherever. Yep.
Christine Goforth(09:25.067)
And it was in that moment that it like, okay, get off the phone with her. And I looked at my husband and I'm like, freshmen physics, physics for an undetermined period of time, physics. Like this is not a math brain. This is not a science brain, but I did it. I did it because it's growth. If I say no, I don't grow at all. And now I can say I taught a hundred and some odd freshmen physics for,
Samantha Bauer(09:33.125)
Ha
Samantha Bauer(09:33.125)
Right? Right.
Samantha Bauer(09:42.307)
Yeah. Right.
Samantha Bauer(09:42.307)
Yeah.
Samantha Bauer(09:49.655)
Exactly.
Christine Goforth(09:55.039)
a month and some odd days.
Samantha Bauer(09:56.761)
Right? Right? Well, it reminds me a little bit of, know, when my son Max was little, you know, he came to me and goes, mommy, I want to do robotics. So I went to the principal, the school principal, and I said, okay, you know, what about the robotics? She goes, well, Sam, if you can find a coach, we'll have a team. And of course I'm looking around like, yep, nope, I guess it's me. So I said, yes, before not even, I had never been to a robotics competition in my life. And so,
Christine Goforth(10:16.619)
the coach.
Samantha Bauer(10:21.975)
I literally said yes to this and I'm like, wait a minute. We have to build the robot and then code it to do things? What did I get myself into? mean, but talk about growth, right? It's like, but then you lean on, like for you, you leaned on, you your great skillset in connecting with people, right? And creating those interpersonal, you know, relationships with your students. So I leaned on the,
Christine Goforth(10:43.98)
Right, right.
Samantha Bauer(10:51.109)
presentation, you know, team building side of the competition, our robot sucked. It did nothing. But my kids walked into that room and presented and killed it. So then we got, you know, to the championship or whatever. And then I called in, you know, the big boys, you know, we had a, we had a, a friend of a friend whose son actually, you know, had a robotics degree from Harvard. So I said, can you help?
Christine Goforth(10:55.307)
Right.
Christine Goforth(11:03.629)
Ugh.
Christine Goforth(11:16.266)
my God, of course.
Christine Goforth(11:20.685)
We needed to do something!
Samantha Bauer(11:20.709)
I've got these fourth and fifth graders. exactly. But yeah, sometimes you just jump in without even knowing all of what's ahead. And that's the faith part.
Christine Goforth(11:29.537)
Go home.
Christine Goforth(11:36.053)
Yeah, and I think you, you touched on something that I think is really important and that I have always been again against everybody else's, don't do this. Don't say that. Don't whatever. Don't tell them. I have found that I would say a hundred percent of the time that I go with my gut and just be vulnerable and, and know my strengths and know my weaknesses. So
Samantha Bauer(12:02.873)
Yep. Right.
Christine Goforth(12:05.427)
I will go into a classroom and say, I know nothing about physics, but I know a lot about a lot of other things and I know how to control a classroom and I know how to control behavior. So really the learning part as a sub, you're in there for one day, two days, whatever. Control the classroom and I know my strengths and I know my weaknesses and when you know yourself and are able to, like you said, lean into your strengths.
Samantha Bauer(12:12.921)
Yep. Right.
Christine Goforth(12:34.581)
That's where you find, I think, your passion and joy and kind of where you're supposed to be and what you're supposed to be doing alignment, I suppose. Yeah. Yep.
Samantha Bauer(12:38.368)
Absolutely.
Samantha Bauer(12:38.368)
Right, and that's the trust piece, right? Trust yourself. Trust that the skills that you do have and the strengths that you do have are gonna help you sort of chart that course in new situations. I mean, yes, you're gonna learn new skills and that, but lean on the strengths that you bring to the table. So I also wanted to share, it's kind of a long quote from Bob Goff, and again,
Samantha Bauer(12:38.368)
courage, you you gotta get over your fear, you gotta use courage, but he talks about failure is just part of the process, he says, and it's not just okay, it's better than okay. God doesn't want failure to shut you down, and of course, he's Christian-based, God-based, so whoever you identify, source energy, universe, God. God didn't make it a three strikes and you're out sort of thing. It's more about how God helps us.
Christine Goforth(13:31.149)
God universe, yep.
Samantha Bauer(13:40.559)
dust ourselves off so we can swing for the fences again and all of this without keeping a meticulous record of our screw ups, right? Yeah, right? Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Failure's good.
Christine Goforth(13:50.365)
I love that so much. I love that so much. Failure is necessity. You have to fail. I don't remember. Absolutely. I don't remember if I've said this on the podcast or not, but it's I saw quote, I'll have to look and see who it was that said it. But it was something about everything that you see around you had failed multiple times.
Samantha Bauer(14:17.497)
Yes. I think it was Eddie Panero. Yes. Yes. Right.
Christine Goforth(14:17.61)
before it was built, before it was created. it, okay, maybe, okay. Everything you've seen around has, it's, And it, yes, yes, fail. That's how you learn. That's how you grow. Yep.
Samantha Bauer(14:25.38)
Yes.
Samantha Bauer(14:29.475)
Yeah, please go out and fail. And I would tell my kids when I drop them off every day to school in their elementary years and they would just look at me like, seriously, mom, I said, I want you to go out and fail today. And they're like, wait, what? Yeah, builds resilience. That means you're growing. You've got to push yourself. You've got to get uncomfortable. We've talked about this and in other episodes and you know,
Christine Goforth(14:40.128)
Yep. Builds resilience.
Christine Goforth(14:53.952)
Feeling the feeling of failing is important. Feeling that of like, because I think that that is a catalyst to make you try harder. And it doesn't mean that the next time you try harder, you're going to succeed. It just means you didn't make the same mistakes. And so try again. It just.
Samantha Bauer(14:57.13)
Absolutely.
Samantha Bauer(15:10.393)
Right, exactly, exactly. And I think that that also reminds me of, I've shared about my, I always talk about Max. mean, Maddie, my darling daughter, eventually I'll talk about her. She just, we'll get to her, but she's kind of hashtag winning at the moment. She's newly engaged in law school and we're so thrilled. Excuse me, but very exciting. But with Max, I've shared before,
Christine Goforth(15:24.361)
we'll get to her. Yeah.
Christine Goforth(15:32.81)
very exciting season for her.
Samantha Bauer(15:40.407)
interviewing for that, the big internship and kept on getting the no, kept on getting the no. And so he's like, he's, know I need to do something different. I just don't know what. And I said, honey, you have a free career coach at that gorgeous school of business, at that beautiful school that we're, you know, spending a lot of money at, go see her. And he says, God, mom, that's so stupid. I said, you know what I said? I said,
Christine Goforth(15:58.679)
Mm-hmm.
Christine Goforth(15:58.679)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Christine Goforth(16:07.646)
It's what she's there for.
Samantha Bauer(16:09.165)
Yeah, I said, you're stupid. You're stupid because here you have a free career coach and you're not going. So then I let it sit. And then several weeks later, apparently, you know, he had made an appointment with her. So he goes in and he chats with her. She looks at his resume and then does a mock interview with them and gives them some really great feedback. Literally three weeks later, he had two internship offers, right? So, you know, there's a little bit of
Christine Goforth(16:10.892)
Stupid Tanako. Yeah.
Christine Goforth(16:34.668)
There you go.
Samantha Bauer(16:38.839)
you know, you got to be humble. You got to, you have to, know, like you said, how you respond to that failure, you know, it's not like, I'm going to give up. Okay. Forget it. I tried. I failed. Right. Right. Exactly. Exactly. and then one of our, one of our listeners rich reached out and she said, you know,
Christine Goforth(16:41.014)
Sure.
Christine Goforth(16:49.644)
Okay, so you give up and then what? Crawl in a hole and wait until death? Like, what's the other option?
Samantha Bauer(17:05.795)
I'm just wondering if there's a new path for me, with my career, I just don't know. I said, you don't know what you don't know. What if you simply had 20 seconds of courage and you reached out to another professional colleague or whatever who's doing what you want to do? Pick their brain. What was your journey? So anyhow, she did it.
Christine Goforth(17:14.623)
Mm-hmm.
Samantha Bauer(17:35.205)
Again, there's no guarantees that all of a sudden, you know, she's going to have this new, you know, path, you know, just, you know, laid in front of her, but she felt in that moment, she felt so good. Yes. About just taking a small, small action. That's, you know, that's, that's all, that's all you got to do. Um, there's another, go ahead.
Christine Goforth(17:37.876)
Right!
Christine Goforth(17:37.876)
Sure.
Christine Goforth(17:45.108)
Empowered.
Christine Goforth(17:54.774)
Well, I think, no, go ahead, you're good.
Samantha Bauer(17:58.307)
Well, was just gonna shift a little bit to, I'm also reading a book by Scott Galloway. So he is a NYU business professor. Most recently just wrote notes about being a man or notes on being a man that actually about for my son. And then I'm also listening to the algebra of happiness. so anyhow, in that he talks about how
Christine Goforth(18:22.48)
Ooh.
Samantha Bauer(18:27.625)
Serendipity is a function of courage. he shares this funny story, like he was poolside at some resort and he says he's a woman that he's attracted to and he committed to himself, like, before I leave, I have to approach her and at least introduce myself or whatever. And so he walks over to her and she's with her two other people or whatever. And so he said, and of course I don't, he didn't, I mean, didn't.
Christine Goforth(18:43.583)
Yep.
Samantha Bauer(18:56.067)
become the love of their lives and you didn't marry or anything like that. But his point is things happen, but they happen because of your own action. And your action requires courage. He had to be courageous, right? So if they ended up having this, you know, this serendipitous relationship, it actually took action, you know.
Christine Goforth(18:59.398)
Right.
Christine Goforth(19:07.733)
Sure.
Christine Goforth(19:21.245)
It would have been because he went and approached. He had the courage. Yep, absolutely. That makes so much sense.
Samantha Bauer(19:24.555)
Exactly. Right. Exactly. So, but I love, you know, when he's because we like to romanticize about, know, just like the, you know, the coincidences in life and how, you know, how well, you know, things are just, you know, it's just kind of fun when things just sort of happen, but things only happen really well. We've talked about it. It's right. You got to be, you got to have the feels. You got to be high vibing with that, that universe. So you can.
Christine Goforth(19:50.719)
Yeah.
Samantha Bauer(19:52.249)
You can accept those and attract those things into your life. You have to have vision about what you want, for God's sake, so that you can take action towards it. And then you've to flip and take action. 20 seconds of courage. What would you do if you had 20 seconds of courage?
Christine Goforth(19:54.229)
Yep.
Christine Goforth(19:59.596)
Yep, absolutely. Yeah.
Christine Goforth(20:10.667)
Well, and I think that 20 seconds of courage, like you said, it might not lead to the exact outcome that you want, but that 20 seconds of courage then is a building block for your next 20 seconds of courage and your next 20 seconds of courage. And eventually one of those, or all of them combined will be the life changer or whatever change you're looking to make.
Samantha Bauer(20:26.093)
Exactly.
Samantha Bauer(20:31.885)
Exactly.
Samantha Bauer(20:31.885)
Exactly. See how fun this is? Right? Well, here we are again, right? Time's up, Christine. We're so thrilled. I know we're thrilled to have this time together, you know, personally, but we're just thrilled to have you be part of our community and our journey as we continue to explore all this fun stuff. But we're going to leave you with this. What would you do?
Christine Goforth(20:37.085)
I love it.
Christine Goforth(20:43.025)
yep, time's up. It goes so fast.
Christine Goforth(20:51.498)
Always.
Samantha Bauer(21:03.747)
with just 20 seconds of courage. So spend some time thinking about that and we cannot wait to welcome you back next time. This is Sisters-in-Law, right? This is Sisters-in-Law of Attraction. I'm Sam. We'll see you next time. Bye-bye.
Christine Goforth(21:09.406)
I want to hear, and I can't wait to hear the answers.
Christine Goforth(21:17.749)
I'm Christine. Bye.