In this episode of Sisters-in-Law of Attraction, Sam and Christine dive into the “I” in the PIVOT method: Innovate. This conversation explores creativity, reinvention, and giving yourself permission to imagine what is next during life transitions like career changes, motherhood, and empty nesting.
Highlights from this episode
The beauty of innovation and creativity is it doesn't need to be rooted in reality, because you're creating reality. With your own thoughts and actions, you get to create this new life.
We are always our biggest blockade. We create this narrative in our head so subconsciously that you don't even realize you're doing it until somebody else points out that it's not reality.
As your kids grow up, they don't need you less, they need you differently. And in that differently, you find yourself with more pockets of time to look inward.
In any pivot moment of your life, you get to create and innovate new things and new identities. Instead of meeting it with fear, meet it with excited anticipation.
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Samantha Bauer(00:01.483)
Welcome back everyone to Sisters in Law of Attraction. I'm Sam. And we're so thrilled you're back with us. You know, last time Christine, we were talking about the P in the pivot method being purpose. And today I think we need to, we're gonna talk about the I in the pivot method, which is innovate.
Christine Goforth(00:05.385)
And I'm Christine!
Christine Goforth(00:19.926)
Yes, innovate. Yay.
Samantha Bauer(00:23.187)
Yes, and so this is the fun part. We've talked about, write your own story. Don't let life happen to you. You can actually be in the driver's seat and write your own story. And so this is where this comes in as far as innovate, create. But before we jump into it, I think I wanted to share, it's kind of a reminder for us and for our listeners that we have to constantly
Christine Goforth(00:38.571)
Exactly.
Samantha Bauer(00:53.101)
be on our game and practice this, right? It's where the just, and I just wanted to share earlier this week, you know, was kind of waking up every morning and kind of bummed out and like overwhelmed with really stupid little things. Like, I'm like, my God, I gotta take care of this and I gotta do this. And all of a sudden I just felt like super overwhelmed. I'm like, okay, I am not high vibing.
Christine Goforth(00:56.309)
Absolutely.
Christine Goforth(01:08.076)
Yeah.
Christine Goforth(01:15.822)
It's like you created that heaviness. Yeah, yeah.
Samantha Bauer(01:18.387)
Yes, right? so, and then again, it's exactly what we've talked about being, you know, attending to that thought, recognizing it and saying, okay, I need to get, I need to get back into that high, bi-B space. And so I was very intentional with my walks this week and making sure there was nothing in my ears. And I was just in that white space, you know, just getting back to, you know, like Gabby Bernstein says, choose again.
Christine Goforth(01:37.9)
Yes.
Christine Goforth(01:48.47)
Right, Yep. Just because it was doesn't mean it has to continue to be that way.
Samantha Bauer(01:48.585)
Choose your thoughts again.
Samantha Bauer(01:55.579)
Exactly, right. So anyhow, just, think it's, was, it's a good reminder that, you know, even, you know, us that we were so involved in, in deep in this, and we talk about it all the time and it's like, okay. I'm, I'm kind of, you know, I'm kind of like spiraling a little bit and feeling a little low, vibey. I need to, I need to up that frequency and let's, you know, use some of the practices we've talked about.
Christine Goforth(02:12.438)
Right?
Christine Goforth(02:20.406)
It's funny that you say that because I recently had a moment also where I was talking with a family member and just kind of helping her through things. within like a 10 minute span, was like something had happened and then I was starting to worry about something and started spiraling and it's like, okay, hold on, hold on. Like this is not who I am anymore.
Samantha Bauer(02:32.789)
Sure.
Samantha Bauer(02:44.447)
Yes.
Christine Goforth(02:48.162)
Like I'm aware of the thought, I'm aware of the feelings that I have. Now let's find my tools, open my tool belt and see, okay, like take some deep breaths. What's the reality right now? What's actually happening versus what my body thinks is happening?
Samantha Bauer(02:56.084)
Yep.
Samantha Bauer(03:00.906)
Right.
Samantha Bauer(03:05.179)
Exactly. Yeah, no, mean, it's a great reminder. And it also, you know, kind of fits right into the conversation today when we talk about, you know, innovation and creativity. And as I was thinking about, you know, how do you create? How do you innovate? Like, what is, and there's a whole science behind it. It's very, very, and you and I, you know, we like to geek out on the whole neuroscience and how does the brain work and all this kind of stuff. there is.
Christine Goforth(03:30.604)
Yes. How do we rewire?
Samantha Bauer(03:33.193)
Right? there's science behind it. But I think what struck me is that people are like, I'm not creative. That's the right side of the brain. And actually what they found is that different areas of the brain have to be interconnected and work together to be in the space that you can create and foster new thoughts and new ideas.
Christine Goforth(03:52.6)
together.
Christine Goforth(04:01.602)
Well, and I think that creativity is something that pick a mode and just start and then the creativity begets more creativity, right? The more you're brainstorming, the more you're thinking, the more you're talking, the more you're diving into things that bring you joy.
Samantha Bauer(04:11.124)
Yes.
Samantha Bauer(04:14.526)
Yes.
Samantha Bauer(04:21.937)
Exactly, exactly. And making those connections, right? And so like exactly your point, right? I mean, you're gonna grab something from this area of the brain and connect it over here and just letting that happen. talks about two, you know, the mental processes that are involved and it talks about the, they call it the default mode network or DMN. And that's, it's like a default mode that your brain goes in when you're in that, what I like to
Christine Goforth(04:24.642)
Mm-hmm.
Christine Goforth(04:45.058)
Okay.
Samantha Bauer(04:51.891)
white space, the quiet. And we've talked about walking. It's a passive activity, allows your brain to go into what they call that default mode network. And that is why it is so important, again, to find those quiet moments, meditation, gratitude. Again, you got to have those positive vibes going to elicit some of this thinking.
Christine Goforth(05:03.809)
Okay.
Christine Goforth(05:13.155)
yet.
Christine Goforth(05:21.068)
Absolutely, absolutely. And I think that in terms of, let's see here, in terms of creativity, and we're gonna have to edit this out, because I totally lost my train of thought. I'm so sorry. I'm really sorry, Greg.
Samantha Bauer(05:36.661)
That's right.
Christine Goforth(05:40.974)
Are you there, Greg? okay. Oops. Okay, great. great. Okay, sorry. Totally. Okay. I totally lost it.
Samantha Bauer(05:41.293)
we can't hear him. We can't hear him. He muted himself.
Samantha Bauer(05:52.265)
No, no, it's okay, so.
Christine Goforth(05:54.744)
creativity. was trying, I was, had a way of tying it back into what I have here and now it is totally gone. Go on.
Samantha Bauer(06:03.051)
So there's also...
Christine Goforth(06:09.078)
Yeah, I can hear Sam perfectly.
Samantha Bauer(06:09.363)
Yes. Yeah, me too.
Samantha Bauer(06:20.542)
Okay.
Samantha Bauer(06:25.631)
Perfect. Okay.
Samantha Bauer(06:25.631)
And there's also another mental process that can spark creative thinking. there's divergent and convergent thinking. So divergent is that sort of free flow, just kind of brainstorming. You're whiteboarding, you're just kind of throwing ideas, and you're kind of all over the place. That's the divergent. And then the convergent is more logical. It's like, OK.
Christine Goforth(06:36.386)
Okay.
Christine Goforth(06:48.194)
Mm-hmm.
Christine Goforth(06:48.194)
Okay.
Christine Goforth(06:56.014)
Sure.
Samantha Bauer(06:57.523)
Like for example, using the pivot method in launching your Verdes and you're in your empty nest stage, it's sort of like, okay, logically, yeah, exactly. So you could be logical about it or you could have fun with it and just kind of free flow ideas and just kind of get out there and say.
Christine Goforth(07:03.97)
Yeah. Here's a guideline.
Christine Goforth(07:11.918)
Mm-hmm.
Christine Goforth(07:17.699)
Yeah.
Samantha Bauer(07:19.423)
Who can I be? What can I be? Let's innovate. Let's create and just again, unshackle ourselves from who we've identified as a mother, as a wife, as a whatever. Like, who can you be now? Who do you want to be now? Who am I now? And who do I want to be? And I think this ties back too, to when we talked about last episode, what is your purpose? You do need to...
Christine Goforth(07:29.133)
Right.
Christine Goforth(07:38.232)
Right.
Samantha Bauer(07:49.357)
identify some sort of beacon or guidepost because you need to know kind of where you're headed. Right, right.
Christine Goforth(07:51.394)
Yes, right. A goal, something, right? Yeah. I had in doing notes and thinking about things and I went ahead and looked up, obviously we know what innovate means, but I wanted to see the actual definition. And I thought it was very interesting in terms of tying it back to who we are in raising our kids and
Christine Goforth(07:51.394)
innovate to make changes in something established, especially by introducing new methods, ideas or products. So to me, I think and maybe it's like this for all moms, I stayed at home with my kids for a period of time and it just felt established or rooted or whatever word you wanna use. I was very rooted in motherhood and I think that it is
Samantha Bauer(08:43.658)
Right.
Christine Goforth(08:48.386)
fairly normal to lose yourself in that. And kind of as your kids are growing up and they don't need you less, they need you differently. And in that differently, you find yourself with more pockets of time. And I think in that time is when, like you said, you look inward, you allow those quiet moments to seep in so that you can tap into, what do I like? What do I want to do?
Samantha Bauer(08:51.455)
Right.
Samantha Bauer(08:58.443)
Alright.
Samantha Bauer(09:15.989)
Right. Right.
Christine Goforth(09:17.484)
Now that I do have a little bit of time here and there, how do I wanna use that? And being intentional about it and saying, where can I make an impact? And what are my hobbies? Even the smallest things, looking inward and finding those answers are going to be a really good starting point.
Samantha Bauer(09:25.844)
Right.
Samantha Bauer(09:31.296)
Right?
Samantha Bauer(09:40.243)
Right, exactly. And I think when it comes to getting creative and innovating yourself in this, this is hashtag pivot time, go big. Write the biggest, baddest story that you can. that's like, allow yourself kind of...
Christine Goforth(09:53.036)
Right. Right.
Samantha Bauer(10:06.197)
crazy thoughts, right? I mean, I just, you know, like get crazy with it. And I think, I love that.
Christine Goforth(10:07.543)
Right? Yeah.
Christine Goforth(10:07.543)
What do the kids say? Delulu is the salulu.
Christine Goforth(10:17.106)
Be delusional is the point. I'll never say that again. That's so cringy. But being delusional is the point. Saying yes, assuming that you can do the thing that you didn't think you could do or didn't think was in your reach.
Samantha Bauer(10:19.195)
Right?
Samantha Bauer(10:31.451)
Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that reminds me of my son Max saying, mom, stop saying hi, Vibe. That's like totally cringy. I'm like, my God.
Christine Goforth(10:39.198)
well, what would you like us to call it, right? This is, well, either jump on or keep it closed.
Samantha Bauer(10:43.563)
Because that's what we're doing. Don't be a hater. Right? Get in the high vibe lane. And I think too, we're going to explore a little bit this in a further episode coming up and that is the critical inner voice. I usually call it the little man in your head.
Christine Goforth(10:52.814)
I love it.
Christine Goforth(11:11.812)
huh. Yeah. It's that tape that we've created ourselves, right?
Samantha Bauer(11:12.011)
You know, and, and, and, yes, and I think when you're doing anything sort of creative is to get, is to try to mute that critical inner voice so that it allows you to, to free flow ideas instead of saying, oh my God, that's stupid. Like, why would I do that? You know?
Christine Goforth(11:24.782)
Mm-hmm.
Christine Goforth(11:30.37)
Yeah, whether it, yeah. Right, that's self-sabotage. Shut that voice off and just do it. Just do it. Easier said than done, right? Otherwise, everybody would be doing the thing. But again, be intentional. Look inward and just do it. Just do the thing and you'll learn as you go.
Samantha Bauer(11:38.793)
Right, exactly.
Samantha Bauer(11:46.803)
Right. Right.
Samantha Bauer(11:51.647)
Right, and I remember when I wrote the book Rebound, I was invited to go talk to high school English class about writing. And so the kids were just asking me, how did you write the book without discouraging yourself? Like, is this good enough? And then we talked about the little man in your
Samantha Bauer(11:51.647)
And so I asked all of them, know, who hears that little man in their head? And everyone raised their hand, you know, because I think writing, it's why a lot of people think they can't do it because they don't know how to mute that critical inner voice to allow the ideas in the writing to happen.
Christine Goforth(12:28.898)
that. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Christine Goforth(12:34.038)
Right, right. And again, once you start and you just start and ideas will come if you don't shut them off yourself, right? We're always, we are always our biggest blockade, if you will. We're always our biggest critic. We're always our biggest blockade. always, we create this narrative a lot of times in our head and
Samantha Bauer(12:45.137)
Exactly.
Samantha Bauer(12:51.337)
Right, right, absolutely.
Christine Goforth(13:01.664)
I think it's done so subconsciously that you don't even realize that you're doing it until maybe perhaps somebody else points out like, hey, that's not reality. know that you based on whatever experiences or past feelings or past whatever, this is the story you've built up in your head. And this is the tape that narrates in your head, but that's not what reality is, right?
Samantha Bauer(13:06.378)
Right.
Samantha Bauer(13:22.153)
Right. Exactly. Exactly. And that's, think that that's kind of the beautiful part of innovation and creativity is it doesn't necessarily need to be rooted in reality because you're creating reality.
Christine Goforth(13:36.524)
Right. Right. Right. That's whole point. Right.
Samantha Bauer(13:38.687)
That's the whole point. So you get with your own thoughts and your own actions, you get to create this new life. You get to be like, what is the what's the thing that you've always wanted to do, but life got in the way and this is your moment, you know, to do it, right? So create the person that you've always, you know, you've always wanted to be.
Christine Goforth(13:53.511)
Mm-hmm. Right.
Christine Goforth(13:53.511)
Right.
Samantha Bauer(14:04.135)
So I wanted to share, because I always go back to You Are a Badass by Jen Shinichiro. And I just love at the end of her book,
Christine Goforth(14:09.036)
Yeah.
Samantha Bauer(14:15.177)
So I'm gonna read it because it just, gets at the, like, be crazy, be wild with your creativity on how to create, you know, this pivot moment in your life on who are you gonna be. So she says, Whatever you desire to do with your precious life, write jokes or rock out or start a business or learn to speak Greek or quit your job or raise a bunch of kids or fall in love or lose your flab or open orphanages around the world or direct movies.
Christine Goforth(14:23.063)
Yes.
Samantha Bauer(14:45.101)
or save dolphins, or make millions, or live in a canyon in a loincloth, believe that it's possible and that it's available to you and that you deserve to be, do, have it. Why not? Right? So, and I just love her. mean, my gosh, she's just, right? Open up orphanages and save dolphins. Like, I mean, like, what are you doing with your life? Shouldn't you be doing that? Right?
Christine Goforth(14:50.894)
You
Christine Goforth(14:55.351)
Yes.
Christine Goforth(15:01.506)
Why not? I love that.
Christine Goforth(15:07.0)
She's the best.
Christine Goforth(15:15.022)
need to go volunteer, need to go do some charity work.
Samantha Bauer(15:16.747)
Right? Yeah. No, I mean, just, she just, she, to talk about creative, I just think she's, she's, she's the best when it comes to, yeah, she's very creative in how she teaches this work. And it just, like we've talked about before, she just puts it in like just everyday language and putting some kind of complex, you know, thoughts very, very simply. So.
Christine Goforth(15:27.544)
I love her delivery.
Christine Goforth(15:33.325)
Yeah.
Christine Goforth(15:39.384)
Yes.
Christine Goforth(15:45.452)
Very easy to receive them, absolutely.
Samantha Bauer(15:47.243)
Exactly. So, you know, when I quit my all-time, full-time job to stay home with my kids, I had to innovate at that point too, right? So even though my pivot moment right now is empty nesting, I had to pivot from my career to being full-time, all-the-time mom, stay at home.
Christine Goforth(16:00.162)
Yes.
Christine Goforth(16:11.522)
And how hard was that? Yeah. Right?
Samantha Bauer(16:13.359)
huge. You talk about identity crisis. I... Wait, what? People are calling me and texting me every minute of the day? Nobody needs me? Like, I was const...
Christine Goforth(16:22.922)
All I have to do is make bottles and feed this kid. Like, what?
Samantha Bauer(16:29.149)
Right, exactly. Yeah, and I remember, you know, Maddie was in second grade when, you know, I decided to stay home with them full time. And of course, I mean, what did I?
Samantha Bauer(16:29.149)
I did all kinds of crazy things, know, president of the PTA, I've got time for that, right? We've talked about it, you know, I coach robotics, like I had no business doing that. I wrote a book, ran for office, you know, started my own business.
Christine Goforth(16:46.658)
Mm-hmm.
Christine Goforth(16:50.476)
Yeah.
Christine Goforth(16:50.476)
Yeah.
Christine Goforth(16:59.266)
You did so many things.
Samantha Bauer(17:02.065)
So I think the whole point is that in any pivot moment of your life, you get to create and innovate new things and new identities, but I will never forget the first Monday of me not going to my job.
Samantha Bauer(17:02.065)
and I'm swirling around the kitchen and I'm in my workout clothes and the kids are at the, you know, at the kitchen counter having their breakfast. And Maddie looks at me and she says, mommy, what are you going to be now? And I remember stopping in my tracks and going, oh my God, well, don't know what I'm gonna be. I know what I'm gonna do. I have...
Christine Goforth(17:41.934)
I don't know.
Christine Goforth(17:41.934)
Right.
Samantha Bauer(17:46.063)
million things on my to-do list I gotta do this I gotta do this and I just remember going my gosh I'd stop right and right right and it stopped me in my tracks and I thought you know what this little person just shook me to my core because I got it I got to do more than just go through the motions and just do life I got to figure out what I'm gonna be now
Christine Goforth(17:48.237)
Right?
Christine Goforth(17:53.954)
What a question from a young mind.
Christine Goforth(18:05.411)
Right?
Christine Goforth(18:10.454)
Mm-hmm. Right.
Samantha Bauer(18:15.497)
And I think that's the beauty of the pivot method is that it gives us a chance to kind of walk through the process, right? Again, you've got to look at your purpose, right? And then you have a chance to innovate and create, give yourself space to do it. And then future episodes, we're going to talk about Vs, value, value yourself, Os, seek opportunity, and Ts, test your limits. And so looking back now when I made that huge transition from having a career
Christine Goforth(18:15.587)
Yeah.
Christine Goforth(18:27.693)
Yes.
Christine Goforth(18:45.347)
Mm-hmm.
Samantha Bauer(18:45.703)
And knowing exactly what my worth was because the out that right it was extrinsic, you know, reinforcement of great job and you know and and
Christine Goforth(18:55.542)
Right, right.
Christine Goforth(18:55.542)
from all over and being measured in raises and promotions and whatever it is, you know, or more work in the case, in your case, you know.
Samantha Bauer(19:06.342)
Exactly.
Samantha Bauer(19:06.342)
Exactly, anyhow, that's just kind of a fun, fun little, little story too. And I think, you know, for me now, it going pivoting into empty nesting is you got to be real careful to don't let the fear seep in. Like, my gosh, like I, I don't have my anchor anymore. I know what my identity was for so long and what I was supposed to do.
Christine Goforth(19:31.949)
right.
Samantha Bauer(19:38.089)
But I did it well, because I've got two successful young adults, and they've got their own lives. And that's the whole point, right? But I think it's instead of meeting it with fear, meeting it with excited anticipation. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
Christine Goforth(19:44.406)
Yep. Right.
Christine Goforth(19:53.112)
curiosity, yeah, right, absolutely. No, and I think it's, I think not letting the fear seep in is one of the hardest things. If you're aware of it, it can be very easy to, know, stave off.
Samantha Bauer(20:08.617)
Right? And like Gabby Bernstein says, choose again. Just choose a different thought, you know?
Christine Goforth(20:12.696)
choose again.
Christine Goforth(20:12.696)
And if your pivot isn't working, pivot again. That's the beauty of the pivot. You can just keep doing it over and over.
Samantha Bauer(20:19.325)
Yes. Right. Right. And like we said last time, you know, finding your purpose in life is, it's not static. It's very dynamic. Right? And it changes.
Christine Goforth(20:30.732)
Yep. Ever changing.
Samantha Bauer(20:33.457)
ever changing and you know it's it's you know having that guidepost and that you know lighthouse if you will a beacon that will help you make decisions towards something but also again having the flexibility to to to pivot in and this is this is what's so fun about about learning about this and doing this work and practicing it because we've seen the impact of
Samantha Bauer(20:33.457)
our own lives and the impact on people around us our family our friends you know and I think that that's right right and again we just get so fired up about this stuff because this is accessible to everybody for free right
Christine Goforth(21:04.248)
Absolutely.
Christine Goforth(21:10.55)
my favorite part about it.
Christine Goforth(21:19.926)
everybody for free free free free free free free free yep yes
Samantha Bauer(21:24.971)
You just gotta do it. You gotta lean in and know that it's within your reach. Anyhow, we are just trying to bless our own mind. I'm telling you. Next episode, we're gonna dive into the V in pivot, which is value. You gotta value yourself. Yes, yes.
Christine Goforth(21:42.998)
Yes!
Christine Goforth(21:42.998)
yes, that's a big one. That's a big one. And I think it's easy to lose it, but we'll find it in the next episode.
Samantha Bauer(21:53.075)
We'll find it. We'll definitely find it. Well, Christine, it's always so fun to be with you and I can't wait to see you next time. Thank you everyone for joining us on Sisters-in-Law of Attraction. I'm Sam. And we'll see you next time. Bye.
Christine Goforth(22:00.994)
See you next time!
Christine Goforth(22:07.488)
and I'm Christine.