Sam and Christine explore the world of spirit guides, inspired by Gabby Bernstein’s Super Attractor. Christine shares the story of her childhood imaginary friend Emma Lemma and a powerful moment when she heard a mysterious voice say “she’s doing it” during a quiet moment at the kitchen sink. Sam opens up about her mom’s deeply spiritual connections and her daughter Maddie’s visit from her late grandfather. Together they talk about how children naturally connect to the spiritual realm, why resistance fades when we lead with love, and the importance of finding white space, no earbuds, no distractions, to let guidance in.
Highlights from this episode
She's doing it. That's what I heard, clear as day, a voice that was not mine. And the next day, skimming the pool, it said: just be patient, the winds will change.
If you experience any resistance to the idea of guardian angels or spirit guides, just simply tap into your belief in love. Be open to a new perspective.
If you don't ever let yourself stop, then how can you let any of the good in?
Once you open yourself up to the love of the universe and get yourself into alignment, you're sending a message to your spirit guides that you're ready.
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Samantha Bauer(00:01.368)
Welcome back everyone to Sisters-in-Law of Attraction. I'm Sam. And we're so, so happy you're back with us. Hi Christine. I'm, you know what? I'm good. We're just gonna go, you know what? We're just gonna go with that.
Christine Goforth(00:05.364)
And I'm Christine.
Christine Goforth(00:11.662)
Hello, how are you?
Christine Goforth(00:11.662)
Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. We're doing fine. We're all fine. Everything's
Samantha Bauer(00:22.136)
Everything's fine. Everything is more than fine. And actually, you know, I am so excited about what we have to talk about today because we hit on it just kind of, you know, a little bit last time, you know, talking about the difference between spirituality and religion and, you know, how spiritual or spirituality rather is more of that personal connection to the divine. Whereas, you know, religion gives you maybe that third party connection to the
Christine Goforth(00:48.13)
Yep.
Samantha Bauer(00:52.18)
through Jesus or the teachings of Bible and none are wrong and you know it's all good it's just I think again for me the most important thing is to make sure that everyone accesses their higher self through whatever means whether that's prayer or mediation. Gosh sometimes we may need a mediator in this life.
Christine Goforth(01:10.542)
Mm-hmm.
Christine Goforth(01:10.542)
Right.
Christine Goforth(01:10.542)
God.
Christine Goforth(01:26.24)
You have, yeah, wow, you've been doing too much lawyer work.
Samantha Bauer(01:30.703)
telling I am married to a lawyer and you know he does mediations almost daily which is you know kind of killing him at the moment but so anyhow so yes and whether it's through prayer yes whether it's through prayer or meditation and it brought me back to you know one of our favorites Gabby Bernstein and her her book super attractor
Christine Goforth(01:39.446)
He would need a meditation.
Christine Goforth(01:50.754)
Mm-hmm.
Samantha Bauer(01:54.895)
And she really for the first time as she explains in her book kind of talks about you know the spirit guides and You know, this is where it get a little woo-woo and it could get Yeah, But you know for for most of us maybe you know, it would create some resistance like really are we you know, we're really going going there, you know and
Christine Goforth(02:03.426)
Mm-hmm.
Christine Goforth(02:08.03)
Give me the woo woo. Give it to me.
Christine Goforth(02:21.622)
Right.
Samantha Bauer(02:22.394)
Yeah, but what she talks about is sort of, as she explains, lifting the veil of the physical world and getting more into that sort of metaphysical world, which again is, again, by definition, it's out there. But she explains young children really have...
Christine Goforth(02:32.184)
Okay.
Christine Goforth(02:36.716)
Mm-hmm.
Christine Goforth(02:40.758)
It's out there, right?
Samantha Bauer(02:47.602)
a much easier time to connect spiritually. You know, that's why children, you know, they do, you know, connect with spiritual beings and, you know, some of them have imaginary friends like someone I know. I mean, not to totally out you, but I mean, can you share with our listeners, Christine?
Christine Goforth(03:02.283)
Yes
Christine Goforth(03:11.638)
Yes, I sure can. I'm more than happy to. So her name is was just kidding. Her name was Emma Lemma. I have no idea why, but she was my imaginary friend for years. And I, the, the most memorable thing that I still have memories of
Samantha Bauer(03:23.322)
Yes?
Samantha Bauer(03:32.016)
Yeah.
Christine Goforth(03:39.668)
is that her grandma's house burnt down over and over and over again. Like, I don't know what that was about, but why did my brain do that?
Samantha Bauer(03:44.198)
Ooh. It's like, yeah, what's the message in there?
Christine Goforth(03:52.908)
no idea. But yeah, I think going back to what you said in regards to kids and the children haven't lived enough life to be able to logically put things in an order that would make sense to them. So these things happen and they're just happening exactly how they are. So maybe there was a spirit and I named it MLMA.
Samantha Bauer(04:07.907)
Yes.
Samantha Bauer(04:11.879)
Right.
Samantha Bauer(04:19.962)
Yes, MLMA.
Christine Goforth(04:22.327)
I just...
Samantha Bauer(04:24.578)
Well, and what's fun because I've known you since you were five. I mean, I've known Emma Lemma, right?
Christine Goforth(04:28.557)
Uh huh. I mean, honestly, you would probably remember more than I do because I was so young when I had her.
Samantha Bauer(04:39.478)
What's hilarious is you're the youngest of four kids and your mom had a daycare. So you weren't lacking for any kids around.
Christine Goforth(04:46.713)
No, I wasn't lonely. No. But I just needed that one extra one who would listen to me.
Samantha Bauer(04:58.246)
Where is she today?
Christine Goforth(05:00.09)
if I only knew, probably saving her grandma's house again.
Samantha Bauer(05:04.654)
I love it. I love it. Well, but you know, during that time, you didn't have any resistance, right? There was no resistance to having access to, you know, you know, imaginary world or who knows what MLMA was, you know, maybe she'll reveal herself one day. Maybe she's your guardian angel and you just never knew.
Christine Goforth(05:13.196)
No.
Christine Goforth(05:23.374)
Right?
Christine Goforth(05:26.801)
Maybe she is, maybe she's the one whispering to me last year that I was doing the right thing by opening my heart to all of this.
Samantha Bauer(05:33.361)
Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, so talk a little bit more about that Christine, because again, as we started this podcast, it was about what we call your awakening. But truly it wasn't an awakening because you opened yourself up to a new perspective, a new way of thinking. And I love last time how you talked about, my God, I'm actually buzzing inside.
Christine Goforth(05:47.949)
Mm-hmm.
Christine Goforth(06:00.235)
Yes. Yeah. So I think it was right around that time. It was last year in July when I had been doing it for a few months and seeing things here and there where I was like, okay. The book said something like that was going to happen. And here we go. Like, I think this is working. and I had told you, like, I am like literally vibrating on the inside and it was right around that time. One day I was doing the dishes.
Samantha Bauer(06:17.052)
Yeah.
Samantha Bauer(06:23.153)
Yep.
Christine Goforth(06:28.917)
and I didn't have any podcast on. It was just quiet, kind of like you said, the white space. I'm doing the dishes, which normally I am always listening to something. But I was very intentional about just having nothing going into my ears and out of nowhere. And I hesitate to say this because it makes me sound a little off my rocker, but a little.
Samantha Bauer(06:55.45)
Woo woo?
Christine Goforth(06:58.475)
Very well, I hear this voice that is not mine and is not anybody's and it's just as though that this voice is talking to somebody else and it says she's doing it. And I was like, wait, what, said that? Where did you go? Come back. What else would tell me more? And that was it. And the next, I kind of sat on that and I didn't, I wrote it down in my notes. didn't tell anybody.
Samantha Bauer(07:12.231)
Yeah.
Samantha Bauer(07:16.913)
Yeah.
Samantha Bauer(07:20.592)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Christine Goforth(07:28.439)
I was like, this is okay. I don't know about this. And the next day I am cleaning my pool. I'm skimming it. It's a meditative state for me because it is very, very relaxing. Skimming the pool and we had some inner tubes that were floating in the water and one was floating away and I was trying to grab it and the whole thing.
Samantha Bauer(07:39.088)
Yep.
Christine Goforth(07:52.011)
And again, I had nothing in my ears, wasn't listening to anything, just me out in the backyard. And I hear this voice again and it says, just be patient, the winds will change. And it was at the time when I was trying to reach for these inner tubes and the winds were blowing them away. literally, just was, it was weird. I can't explain it. I...
Samantha Bauer(08:03.666)
Yeah, love that.
Samantha Bauer(08:13.648)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Christine Goforth(08:18.924)
think I'm nuts if you want but it's like I don't it wasn't my voice and it wasn't any it it just was something otherworldly so and it just it's very comforting
Samantha Bauer(08:21.234)
Right? Yeah.
Samantha Bauer(08:27.922)
Well, what I love about it, well, it is very comforting because when you realize and you open yourself up to that energy, right? To the love of the universe, to the love of God and knowing that there's something else out there and you're connected and when you reconnect with your spirituality again,
Samantha Bauer(08:27.922)
Gabi says, know, there's, you know, spirit guides. I mean, we've all heard about it, right? Everything from guardian angels to the archangels to those who have gone before us, perhaps. You know, we see them in a dream or we hear them. And she simply says, once you finally get yourself into alignment with the love of universe and love of God, again, it's reconnecting with the light.
Christine Goforth(08:54.465)
Mm-hmm.
Christine Goforth(09:04.042)
Yep. Yep.
Christine Goforth(09:17.045)
Right.
Samantha Bauer(09:17.806)
You're sending a message to your spirit guides that, she's ready. She's...
Christine Goforth(09:23.574)
She's ready, yes, quite literally she's ready, she's doing it. Like whatever action plan we had, it's time to set it into motion.
Samantha Bauer(09:28.325)
Yep.
Samantha Bauer(09:32.803)
Exactly, exactly. And again, it's through prayer and meditation that we just simply
Samantha Bauer(09:32.803)
know allow and so we talk about you know, we've talked a lot about on the podcast how you know, got to change your thoughts and you know the neuroplasticity and changing the you know, the rewiring the brain and yes, they're all is all that You know that science behind it that changes our behavior, but once we change our behavior Then we can finally, you know be open
Christine Goforth(09:52.14)
Sure.
Samantha Bauer(10:02.832)
to the light and choose the light. And I think I've said this before, telling my kids, your job is to bring the light and to lift others. mean, it's really and truly that simple. And I think that's what's so exciting, Christine, for us is that in having these conversations and getting the response from our listeners.
Christine Goforth(10:05.568)
Right, right.
Christine Goforth(10:25.28)
Yeah.
Samantha Bauer(10:26.396)
that you know they they're like yes this is exactly what I need right now or exactly you know how I've been thinking and it's just another way to just really and you talk about law of attraction right being a super attractor you're now attracting things into your life once you choose you choose that light and again it's sort of like okay well what do I have to do like what's the one two three steps to do it and there is no prescribed way of doing this
Christine Goforth(10:32.043)
Yeah.
Christine Goforth(10:46.72)
Right.
Christine Goforth(10:52.458)
Right. No, no, none other than just being open to it. And it's like you say, it's, it seems so simple because you're actually doing less, but it's the practice of all of it, where you're just, you to stop resisting something you would think would be easier, but it is in fact a little bit more difficult.
Samantha Bauer(10:59.024)
Yeah.
Samantha Bauer(11:06.407)
Yeah.
Samantha Bauer(11:13.094)
Right? Exactly, exactly.
Samantha Bauer(11:13.094)
So anyhow, she encourages, Gabby Vernestein in her super attractor book, she encourages those that if you're experiencing any resistance to this idea that there's guardian angels or people, I shouldn't say people, energies, spirits out there that we can tap into to get guidance in our life. She said, just simply tap into the belief in love.
Christine Goforth(11:39.052)
Mm-hmm.
Christine Goforth(11:48.63)
Bright. I love that.
Samantha Bauer(11:49.529)
It's really, you're like, okay, the whole ghost thing or angel thing, that's a little way too far out there. But if you just simply tap into your belief in love and be open to a new perspective, then this work becomes, you'll be buzzing like Christine.
Christine Goforth(12:07.754)
Mm-hmm.
Christine Goforth(12:14.421)
Right?
Christine Goforth(12:20.71)
Christine. Put that on a shirt.
Samantha Bauer(12:22.65)
Right?
Samantha Bauer(12:22.65)
So, you know, she encourages us to reconnect with our spirit, reclaim your love and return to love. So, you know, again, we're all about, okay, so how exactly, you know, do we do this? How do I say, okay, spirit guides, you know, where are you? So she explains there's different types of spirit guides, right? You've got the seven archangels and we can kind of go through all those. She, you know, she talks about that we all have our own
Christine Goforth(12:48.65)
Yes.
Samantha Bauer(12:55.654)
you know, guardian angel. once you, you know, and she has a very simple prayer, you know, that you can say that you basically send a message to your guardian angel, I'm open. I'm open. I'm open for you to come into my life and help guide me. You know, I'm experiencing these challenges. so, right, a lot of my mantra is, you know, give it up to the Lord, but you you could give it up to your guardian angel.
Christine Goforth(12:57.268)
Mm-hmm.
Christine Goforth(13:08.751)
yeah.
Christine Goforth(13:14.518)
Mm-hmm.
Christine Goforth(13:23.104)
Give it up to whoever you want to give it up to as long as it's someone bigger than you. Yup.
Samantha Bauer(13:28.498)
Exactly, exactly. And I think it's what's kind of fun is recently my mom shared that she finally discovered who her guardian angel is and she said it's it's an Aunt Marie who she barely knew and she
Christine Goforth(13:44.687)
wait, how did she-
Samantha Bauer(13:46.351)
Is she just presented herself, you know, in a, in kind of like a dream state or it is kind of funny, you know, my mom's struggling with her health. She keeps on saying that she wakes up in her chair and there's people waving at her. And I said, okay, could you just tell them to go away for right now?
Christine Goforth(14:04.914)
no.
Samantha Bauer(14:05.01)
She goes, yeah, she goes, can't really make out their faces, but they're waving. And then years ago, she lost her husband, my dad, years ago. She had a dream about my dad, who you knew very well. And she said, my god, Sam, your dad is standing there in a doorway, and he's waving at me to come. And there's light behind him. And I said, OK, tell him not now. Bye.
Christine Goforth(14:12.295)
she is!
Christine Goforth(14:18.281)
Yeah, uh-huh.
Christine Goforth(14:26.961)
no, no, no, no, no. that's gonna make me cry. Not yet.
Christine Goforth(14:26.961)
and check back in 10 to 12 business years.
Samantha Bauer(14:36.538)
Yeah, yeah, and this is years ago, but but honestly my mom and we've already talked about this is and this is where I get sort of my You know again practicing Catholic and you know the religion piece but again, we've talked about how different spirituality and religion are and Exploring your spiritual life, right? She was even very connected to my grandmother her mother and so they
Christine Goforth(14:57.93)
Right.
Christine Goforth(15:02.539)
She's been, your mom has been spiritual since I have met her. Like I distinctly remember that is one of the top words I would use to describe her is very spiritual.
Samantha Bauer(15:08.156)
Yeah.
Samantha Bauer(15:12.794)
Yeah.
Samantha Bauer(15:12.794)
very, very, very in tune. And you know, my grandmother was too. And so they would do these almost kind of crazy telepathic things. My grandmother was back in Chicago visiting family and my mom's in California. And you know, this is obviously decades ago and my mom's vacuuming and she got this overwhelming sense of dread and this message, call your mom. And so she turned off the vacuum and she called and she got
Samantha Bauer(15:12.794)
my grandmother's sister, my mom's aunt, and my grandmother was ill and in the hospital. Yeah, so, yeah, so, so, you know, I mean, we have all these, you know, sort of examples. I know plenty, plenty of people do, but I mean, I think the most important message of this is, I mean, what a beautiful experience to be surrounded by love and light and knowing
Christine Goforth(15:49.829)
my gosh, Sam.
Samantha Bauer(16:14.768)
that again it's not like, there's something out there like aliens and all that stuff. It's not that, it's energy. We've talked about that. Yeah.
Christine Goforth(16:21.605)
It's, and it's, it's, it, again, I'll use the word comforting. It's comforting to know that there are entities or whatever you want to call them, spiritual energy that are out there, whether it's people you've known that have passed or whatever it is, it's just incredible to know that there are other
Samantha Bauer(16:35.41)
Spirit guides. Yeah, yeah, right.
Christine Goforth(16:51.147)
realms, guess, just other realms of love. Like the energy doesn't just disappear, right? We are all made of energy. and to have hear stories of people who have proof that they had a visitor or they had a vision or whatever it is, you, I am, I am fully convinced that while some people are more in tune to it than others,
Samantha Bauer(16:52.54)
Yeah, yeah, right, right.
Samantha Bauer(16:59.13)
Right, right, right, right.
Christine Goforth(17:19.411)
I think that everybody can have that experience if they were open to it.
Samantha Bauer(17:22.253)
Absolutely.
Samantha Bauer(17:22.253)
Yeah, and that's it. just again, going to that getting outside of the ego, finding that white space for prayer and meditation, right? I there's things that you have to do in order to kind of tap into it. But again, in love and just really quickly, you know, the story soon after, actually it wasn't soon after my dad died. My daughter Maddie was three years old when my dad died and they were inseparable. My dad was in love with his only granddaughter, his little means.
Christine Goforth(17:29.577)
Mm-hmm.
Christine Goforth(17:35.604)
Of course.
Samantha Bauer(17:53.487)
I will tell you it was when Maddie was probably eight or nine and she came home after school. She was here briefly by herself. I was coming from another meeting like within you know ten minutes or whatever and I pull up and she's in the front of the house crying and she said mommy I saw Poppy. She said I walked down the hall and he was sitting at the foot of your bed. He was there. I saw him.
Samantha Bauer(17:53.487)
Right? And so when you talk about visits, yeah, and so, and again, child and certainly open to it. And, you know, she wasn't, you know, thinking like day in and day out, you know, about Poppy because, you know, she was three when he died, but she said he, and she described him and what, yeah. Yeah. And I was kind of laughing to myself because honestly, it was a mess up in, in, scheduling.
Christine Goforth(18:36.661)
her.
Christine Goforth(18:40.939)
Clear as day. Like it's a fact. He was sitting right here. Period.
Samantha Bauer(18:51.118)
Maddie was not supposed to be home alone. I she was eight or nine. And I was late coming from a meeting. I was supposed to be here and I was frantic to get home. And it was like my dad was here protecting her. Yeah. So it was just, yeah. Anyhow, so I think everyone has the stories, but we are almost out of time and we haven't even gotten to the seven archangels.
Christine Goforth(18:54.122)
Uh-huh.
Christine Goforth(19:04.972)
my god, I love that story so much.
Christine Goforth(19:16.053)
Well, that'll be our next episode.
Samantha Bauer(19:17.466)
So let's start, right? So as we wind down here, obviously we'll have to get into this in a future episode, but there are seven archangels. you know, mean, there's, you know, when you search it on the internet, depending who you, you.
Samantha Bauer(19:17.466)
what source you find, there's some differences there. I think the most important thing is they're non-denominational, right? They're not Catholic, they're not Jewish or Christian or whatever it is, it's not specific to a religion. So anyhow, I'm not even gonna really get into it, because we're coming to a close, but I really and truly believe...
Christine Goforth(19:39.381)
Right.
Christine Goforth(19:45.215)
Right. Sure.
Samantha Bauer(20:02.15)
this type of work. Again, last time we talked, it was, are basically sending ourselves into spiritual oblivion by distracting ourselves with the busy day-to-day and of course the digital, we already talked about that. So here's the point.
Christine Goforth(20:15.179)
Mm-hmm.
Christine Goforth(20:15.179)
Hmm.
Samantha Bauer(20:23.63)
Spend time in the white space. Like, to your point, like don't put things in your ears when you're cleaning the dishes or go out in the backyard and just skim the pool or just stand there and literally have a moment and find that white space.
Christine Goforth(20:25.664)
Yep.
Christine Goforth(20:39.187)
It's okay to be with your own thoughts.
Samantha Bauer(20:42.726)
Yes, absolutely, because there's going to be some beautiful, beautiful discovery in there. And sometimes, and again, we talked about last time, know, there'll be some scary things too, and that's, you know, folks.
Christine Goforth(20:44.691)
Yeah.
Christine Goforth(20:53.625)
for sure, always. But if you don't ever let yourself stop, then how can you let any of the good in?
Samantha Bauer(21:01.188)
Yes, exactly. Well said. Well, here we are again. We just, you know, we just fly right through. So obviously in a future episode, we are going to have to dig a little bit deeper into these spirit guides and have a little bit more fun with this conversation. But we are so, so happy that you joined us today and we can't wait to welcome you back next time. This is Sisters-in-Law of Attraction. I'm Sam. And we'll see you next time. Bye.
Christine Goforth(21:13.043)
Yes.
Christine Goforth(21:24.286)
and I'm Christine.